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Switch
12-06-2007, 12:42 AM
BYE <> Team-Legion
Omega Gaming <> Phoenix
Kicked By Console <> Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers <> Notik
Final Destination² <> T3 Gaming
Proof 151 <> Ascendency gaming
pieFactory <> Legendary Gamers 1

scruffman
12-06-2007, 12:45 AM
BYE <> Team-Legion
Omega Gaming > Phoenix
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming
pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1

Switch
12-06-2007, 12:47 AM
BYE < Team-Legion - i dont get it, LGN has good players, mr die, cope, costa, aqua, jword.. why cant you pull it together? :( well gl next week! <3

Omega Gaming > Phoenix - omega is looking strong so far this season, so ill give it to them

Kicked By Console <MOTW> Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - elmo vs. gorilla glhf, lowcarb is gay.

Internet Explorers < Notik - they dont care, go maaku and killplan

Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - t3 is just solid this season, even without cube-n they are still good.

Proof 151 <GLHF> Ascendency gaming - haha we meet again and coincidentially we meet on anzio lol, last time i played AG was on last seasons semis when i was on exgaming, im looking forward to this :D <3 AG

pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1 - LG just has the fragpower. definately an underrated team in main, i can see them in the finals.

bloodberry
12-06-2007, 12:47 AM
BYE <> Team-Legion - oMg Cope <3
Omega Gaming > Phoenix - oMg my nuca air rookie jordan <3
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - my blazing rob <3
Internet Explorers < Notik - it was a guess
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - fd dead. we stole quin and amir
Proof 151 <?> Ascendency gaming - both are good solid team. could go either way.
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1 - oMg sloth <3

Reaper
12-06-2007, 12:52 AM
BYE <> Team-Legion
Omega Gaming >GLHF< Phoenix
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - Gorillas turn to try out Elmo
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - <3 T3zorz
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - 151 is ROLLLLLLLLLLING!!!!!!
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1 - pf will rebound this week

LeetSauce
12-06-2007, 02:24 AM
BYE <> Team-Legion
Omega Gaming <> Phoenix - this could go either way. with a 2-0 record and a solid win against NSJ, omega has def showed they got what it takes to be a competitor in main.
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - landslide
Internet Explorers < Notik - no real point in predicting this one.......
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - t3 let me down on harrington, but this week i expect better. make it happen fellas
Proof 151 <GLHF> Ascendency gaming - anzio is our map, and i can guarantee you that Smokey wont be heaving this week :)
pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1 - recently scrimmed against LG and their heavies impressed me...

flash
12-06-2007, 02:31 AM
BYE <> Team-Legion
Omega Gaming <?> Phoenix - could go either way
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers < Notik - this page cannot be displayed
Final Destination² <glhf> T3 Gaming
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - 151 should have this no prob
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1 - with the pickup of Battle they can only get better

Drunk Rifle
12-06-2007, 02:43 AM
BYE < Team-Legion
Omega Gaming < Phoenix
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming
Proof 151 <GLHF> Ascendency gaming
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1

Lets see if we can disappoint the none believers that we will win for the 4th straight week. Sooner or later you guys will be right!!!

Jackal
12-06-2007, 03:31 AM
BYE < Team-Legion
Omega Gaming > Phoenix
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² <glhf> T3 Gaming
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming
pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1

My hand should be all healed for this one!

Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - t3 let me down on harrington, but this week i expect better. make it happen fellas
We didn't have our starting lineup for Harrington :/ We'll be full strength this week.

IRDead
12-06-2007, 10:49 AM
BYE > Team-Legion I think the bye will rape face and they will all drop 50's
Omega Gaming > Phoenix
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² > T3 Gaming
Proof 151 <GLHF> Ascendency gaming i look forward to the challenge
pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1



great. i finally get off the fricken watch schedule and can play a match and its 151....

-NINE-
12-06-2007, 02:37 PM
Omega Gaming < Phoenix
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers > Notik - Notik should prevail here, i dont see them dropping 2 in a row
Final Destination² > T3 Gaming
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - good match here, sauce and the gang love anzio
pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1 - greed , whitetail, nighthawk? need i say more.

jizzf0rjosh
12-06-2007, 03:07 PM
pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1 - greed , whitetail, nighthawk? need i say more.

Who, who, who?

scruffman
12-06-2007, 03:11 PM
Who, who, who?

Greed, Whitetail and Nighthawk

-NINE-
12-06-2007, 03:19 PM
lol

Negative!
12-06-2007, 03:58 PM
BYE <> Team-Legion - awww
Omega Gaming < Phoenix - terror and bunglebot will hold church and never let go. but the rifles on both teams should be somewhat even and be a good battle. PHX by 1 cap
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - tristan is back! and elmo never played with him, but hes good?! 3 caps for ns and a few tics
Internet Explorers < Notik - simple, ie doesn't care. how about some moble turrets
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - by a cap and some tics
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - bigdaddy ruins them.
pieFactory <MOTW> Legendary Gamers 1 - why motw? because i think this will be the tighest game. UBK vs greed in church, winters church? liquid birdge? it'll be a good game.

jizzf0rjosh
12-06-2007, 04:56 PM
You do need to say more

DanTesla1
12-06-2007, 06:41 PM
BYE <> Team-Legion - a much needed break.
Omega Gaming < Phoenix - bungles and terror :O
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - elmo wins
Internet Explorers < Notik - simple, ie doesn't care. how about some moble turrets
Final Destination² <GLHF> T3 Gaming - i'm disappointed with last week's match.
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - bigdaddy owns me... and AG, even though they pulled through on us.
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1 - not a tight match at all. Winters will destroy. PK is also a sick-ass rifle.

Bigdaddy
12-06-2007, 07:02 PM
BYE <> Team-Legion - Penis
Omega Gaming < Phoenix - bungles and terror...enough said.
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - Bluto is gay :o
Internet Explorers < Notik - IE loves penis :P
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - T3 will take this one...I was pulling for them last night but they didn't win ..but they will get this one no doubt :D <3 dan.
Proof 151 = Ascendency gaming - GLHF
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1 - I think pc gamers will take this one. Althought Nighthawk and greed have become the greatest heavy duo to grace dods...pc should get it.

Ez
12-06-2007, 08:00 PM
BYE <> Team-Legion
Omega Gaming <GLHF> Phoenix - Will be definitely challenging playing vs Bungles and Terror. I'll have my hands full.
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - elmo will keep NS in it, but KBC is the better TEAM
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - T3 will bounce back and win
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - I'm pretty sure sauce will own plaza
pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1 - Greed, Whitetail, Nighthawk will dominate plaza

Excal
12-06-2007, 08:02 PM
BYE <> Team-Legion
Omega Gaming < Phoenix
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming
pieFactory <glhf> Legendary Gamers 1

Xfactor
12-08-2007, 12:52 AM
BYE <> Team-Legion - They need one to regroup and try and get their First win

Omega Gaming > Phoenix - I just find it hard to take in that a 3 man team can do the job against such a well rounded squad. Close one though I say by a cap maybe.

Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - Elmo will destroy, and laudos will prone in water under the bridge.

Internet Explorers < Notik - I <3 josh but being 0-2 doesnt help my preds lean your way. notik has some of the best rifles in main. So just take bridge on axis KBC and hold on allies. Maybe 1-2 caps

Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - Its been a rough season for Tesla and the troups, but they sit-a-top Main with 4 teams so this is where, they seperate the boys from the men. T3 has to pull this one out to go into the next 2 matches with confidence. Tesla give them the Bear Bryant talk dude :P 2 caps at least :)

Proof 151 gLhF Ascendency gaming - Looking forward to this also, anzio is my best map! Besides harrington.

pieFactory > Legendary Gamers - pF should bounce back with battle on the roster now they should come out with a win.

DaneNickels
12-08-2007, 01:15 AM
I'm so glad no one's mentioned my badness playing for LG. LOL

Switch
12-08-2007, 01:22 AM
edit is bad.

carnavorium
12-09-2007, 05:33 AM
BYE < Team-Legion
Omega Gaming > Phoenix
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² > T3 Gaming
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1

therookie
12-09-2007, 06:15 AM
BYE > Team-Legion- I don't think legion can win a game ;/
Omega Gaming < Phoenix- We suck
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced- If they get rid of everyone except Elmo
Internet Explorers > Notik- 6 Man rush church will destroy even Visual
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming- If fd2 wins...then I lose all respect for Flash
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming- Let Draztic snipe srsly
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1- Edit is their "Backpack" and he isn't exactly Main caliber

Jackal
12-09-2007, 10:37 AM
Tesla give them the Bear Bryant talk dude :P

ROFL, Tesla giving a pep talk... "WOW" (inside joke). But seriously, that quote right there made my day!

I <3 Tesla! ;)

DanTesla1
12-09-2007, 12:28 PM
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming- If fd2 wins...then I lose all respect for Flash

if we lose then you'll never see my face in this game again.

and btw jackal, "WOW" is very motivational. lol.

Xfactor
12-09-2007, 04:05 PM
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming- Let Draztic snipe srsly


Lol why?

Switch
12-09-2007, 04:34 PM
draztic=xfactor

and yup hes sniping.

VOLK
12-09-2007, 04:48 PM
fd2 fell apart so were just riding it out till next season by merging with the o team untill we can rebuild... I guess. :(

Reaper
12-09-2007, 08:18 PM
Omega Gaming < Phoenix- We suck


Nice Rookie.

therookie
12-09-2007, 09:37 PM
no u!

Bacon/Queef Bubbles
12-10-2007, 04:42 AM
Omega Gaming > Phoenix
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced
Internet Explorers < Notik
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming
pieFactory < Legendary Gamers 1

NJC
12-10-2007, 06:50 PM
BYE > Team-Legion--BYE is way too good in Open and Main
Omega Gaming > Phoenix--Strong start for Omega...keep it going guys
Kicked By Console <glhf> Nomadic Soldiers Juiced--let tiny play!!!!
Internet Explorers < Notik--by at least 200 points
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming--things arent going good for FD2
Proof 151 <glhf> Ascendency gaming--should be good
pieFactory <glhf> Legendary Gamers 1--should be good

Winters
12-10-2007, 07:57 PM
BYE <> Team-Legion
Omega Gaming < Phoenix - Terror and Bungles will backpack plaza and pews on axis side and then sundial and mid allied side. All phx needs to do is bridge cap and they will capout shortly after.
Kicked By Console > Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - Elmo can't backpack 5.
Internet Explorers < Notik - ie 'doesn't try' and notik is a better team
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - both teams have lost some of their starters but i'll be pullin for t3 in this one
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - proof 151 has their shit together
pieFactory <GLHF> Legendary Gamers 1

BANKS
12-11-2007, 03:44 AM
BYE < Team-Legion

Omega Gaming > Phoenix - go EZ and crew...

Kicked By Console <?> Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - could go either way

Internet Explorers < Notik - IE plays for funnnn

Final Destination² <?> T3 Gaming - i honestly don't know...

Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - AGs heavies need to learn to hold plaza, corner clipping can't do it all munky...

pieFactory <?> Legendary Gamers 1 - haven't seen much from either team...

kbc`rob
12-11-2007, 02:55 PM
BYE > Team-Legion - lgn =dead
Omega Gaming > Phoenix
Kicked By Console <glhf> Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - i suck at anzio so prolly will bench myself for our new euro
Internet Explorers > Notik - ie` by 1000
Final Destination² > T3 Gaming - fDead
Proof 151 <> Ascendency gaming - both teams have their shit together
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1

Munky
12-11-2007, 05:01 PM
BYE < Team-Legion

Omega Gaming > Phoenix - go EZ and crew...

Kicked By Console <?> Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - could go either way

Internet Explorers < Notik - IE plays for funnnn

Final Destination² <?> T3 Gaming - i honestly don't know...

Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - AGs heavies need to learn to hold plaza, corner clipping can't do it all munky...

pieFactory <?> Legendary Gamers 1 - haven't seen much from either team...


banks u are honestly the dumbest kid ever if u think that all i do is camp. Corner Clipping? o my bad dawg i forgot that proning in gay corner at plaza is the way to go like u did. And im almost positive that vex wasnt giving a shit at all and was just rushing u with nades. o and btw i know that this was uncalled for but banks is a re re and i fucking hate him. next time if i have to heavy against u i wont be typing to u all half.

ChadSexington
12-11-2007, 05:18 PM
BYE > Team-Legion - Team down, unfortunatly.
Omega Gaming > Phoenix - This is a teamwork map, and omega has it more together than PHX. I expect the axis bridge crew of rookie, swarm, and Reaper not to lose it the entire half. Omega by 3 caps.
Kicked By Console < Nomadic Soldiers Juiced - Even with KBC's new pickup, NS juiced by 2 caps
Internet Explorers < Notik - I'd like to see a mobile mg, and a 6 man sewer rush to hold mid, as well as trying to find out the most amount of players you can get on axis to 'pray' at the pews.
Final Destination² < T3 Gaming - I think T3's chemistry will prove the victor here. 3 caps
Proof 151 > Ascendency gaming - I think AG will fall short by 2-3 caps on this one. And, on that note, I think i will have to get Banks to ring against munky a few more times, just to piss him off ;)
pieFactory > Legendary Gamers 1 - LG1 has a tight team, but I think the overwhelming rifle skill of piefactory & whatever winters does will make the difference here. 3-4 caps

therookie
12-11-2007, 05:32 PM
+1 to banks e-rep for making munky qq rage...btw munky just because you left peek every corner and still can't heavy oesn't mean you should get mad at banks....he is just pointing out your flaws at playing tactical...

and yes I did get calbanned

Munky
12-11-2007, 05:48 PM
rookie u got calbanned hush plus i <3 u. its not hard to make me rage =(. O and its wrong for me to peek things with a heavy from time to time? if thats the case i guess i'll try rushing two heavies in plaza head on just spraying at them. o and banks i cant heavy kk yea last season after the match u told me i was good change of mind i guess o well cutie.

jizzf0rjosh
12-11-2007, 06:07 PM
who r u?

scruffman
12-11-2007, 06:07 PM
banks is taking his rage out on all the ex-kinetic guys because i replaced him due to him being the shittiest rifle on the team.

fuzz
12-11-2007, 06:12 PM
Things Are Heating Up

flash
12-11-2007, 07:35 PM
I like how you made your text red as if it resembles a flame

Drunk Rifle
12-11-2007, 07:37 PM
LOL @ my team.

Banks, I am sure if they knew it was you they would of put their trypants on and owned ya. They did the last time we played ya and knew it was you, not to sure you should be really talking shit when you drop a 13 on us in a scrim.

Now that I have entered into the trash talking... cheers and glhf this week everyone.

Ez
12-11-2007, 07:38 PM
Back to predictions eh? Take your pussy slap fights elsewhere.

flash
12-11-2007, 07:55 PM
eh?

Your not Canadian!

Xfactor
12-11-2007, 08:17 PM
Back to predictions eh? Take your pussy slap fights elsewhere.


I like cock fighting the best but, yeah back to preds please!

jizzf0rjosh
12-12-2007, 12:45 AM
Back to predictions eh? Take your pussy slap fights elsewhere.

Everyone on this site has already predicted~

Reaper
12-12-2007, 01:00 AM
and yet another Hijacking...

I thought this was going to be different than the others???

@ Munky... <3, but chillax man, ur gonna drop an O-Ring trying to out E-Thug Banks... remember DAWG he already is a THUG to start, and well ur just e...

@ Flash... Americans can't say eh???

Winters
12-12-2007, 02:09 AM
Light smack in preds is fine as long as it doesn't get out of hand.

And no Americans can't say eh. Canadians hold 'eh' patent pending throughout eternity. Ya hoser.

Bigdaddy
12-12-2007, 02:15 AM
and yet another Hijacking...

I thought this was going to be different than the others???

@ Munky... <3, but chillax man, ur gonna drop an O-Ring trying to out E-Thug Banks... remember DAWG he already is a THUG to start, and well ur just e...

@ Flash... Americans can't say eh???


Pretty sure BANKS isn't a "thug" in real life.........because honestly wtf would a "thug" be doing playing a fucking video game?

jizzf0rjosh
12-12-2007, 02:27 AM
Pretty sure BANKS isn't a "thug" in real life.........because honestly wtf would a "thug" be doing playing a fucking video game?

Ask xclusive

flash
12-12-2007, 03:08 AM
Pretty sure BANKS isn't a "thug" in real life.........because honestly wtf would a "thug" be doing playing a fucking video game?

lmao

and yeah, what my fellow Canuck (Winters) said

ChadSexington
12-12-2007, 12:08 PM
Well, banks and munky used to be homies back in the kenetic days - 'bout the time you were on epitome - Season 5.

Apparently they had a falling out over who got to use the blue toothbrush in the morning or some such nonsense.

Spin
12-12-2007, 12:56 PM
Internet Explorers > Notik - ie` by 1000


LOL, didn't we just beat your team in a scrim last night? night before the match? hmmmm hope your J/K lols

jizzf0rjosh
12-12-2007, 01:44 PM
LOL, didn't we just beat your team in a scrim last night? night before the match? hmmmm hope your J/K lols

LOL, take the internet more srsly plz I don't think you understand the gravity of DoD:S matches, and you call yourself a cyber athlete

Winters
12-12-2007, 02:01 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9119756323379359162

ie doesn't even hold a candle to these guys

BANKS
12-12-2007, 02:17 PM
lol kids are madddddddd

p.s. rookie i love you...

Switch
12-12-2007, 03:45 PM
LOL, take the internet more srsly plz I don't think you understand the gravity of DoD:S matches, and you call yourself a cyber athlete



owned~

ChadSexington
12-12-2007, 03:48 PM
Does anyone else think that 'cyber athlete' and 'e-sports' are ridiculous terms? I'm as much of a 'cyber-athlete' as someone who plays chess, bridge, and occasionally bowls is a tri-athelete.

scruffman
12-12-2007, 04:23 PM
i think its flat out stupid. has anyone ever claimed to be a cyber athlete or a pro at e-sports in real life?

Jackal
12-12-2007, 04:29 PM
Does anyone else think that 'cyber athlete' and 'e-sports' are ridiculous terms? I'm as much of a 'cyber-athlete' as someone who plays chess, bridge, and occasionally bowls is a tri-athelete.

Haha, yeah I've always thought that was pretty funny. "Cyberathelete"... I'll be back later, I gotta carbo-load for tonights match!

ChadSexington
12-12-2007, 04:32 PM
A buddy of mine showed up last wednesday and made fun of me for that. He sat through the match too.

He told me :

"remember a few years ago - you'd be out wednesday nights training. Now you're here practicing to be a cyber-athlete."

Then he laughed at me for a while. stupid e-sports.

Spin
12-12-2007, 04:40 PM
Electronic sports, abbreviated e-sports or eSports, is used as a general term to describe the play of video games (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Video_game) as a professional sport (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Sport). Less popular terms include competitive gaming, cybersports, cyber athletics (used by the CPL) and V-Sports (used by the GGL)

Jackal
12-12-2007, 04:54 PM
Thank you Spin for that. I think the discussion was more about the ridiculousness of the terms, not their definitions, but E for effort! ;)

jizzf0rjosh
12-12-2007, 05:32 PM
E for electronic effort

ChadSexington
12-12-2007, 05:34 PM
Video games, much like chess and bridge, are not sports. Only two of the three are attempting to be come olympic sports.

Though I dont want to see any of the three in this next olympics, i'll fucking shoot myself when japan makes a medal sweep in the starcraft event.

Seriously.

DaneNickels
12-12-2007, 05:46 PM
sport - an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Video games competitively are sports. Sorry kids.

Winters
12-12-2007, 06:06 PM
sport - an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Video games competitively are sports. Sorry kids.

Clicking and moving a mouse is not athletic activity. If such activities were then the US would be winning channel surfing in the lazygame olympics.

scruffman
12-12-2007, 06:40 PM
sport - an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Video games competitively are sports. Sorry kids.

by that definition pissing contests and figure skating are 'sports'.

flash
12-12-2007, 07:18 PM
figure skating is a sport, it may be gay as hell but it still qualifies

scruffman
12-12-2007, 07:25 PM
figure skating is a sport, it may be gay as hell but it still qualifies

no, it really, reeeeally doesn't

IRDead
12-12-2007, 10:18 PM
I got benched... oh well.

jizzf0rjosh
12-12-2007, 11:28 PM
sport - an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Video games competitively are sports. Sorry kids.

Video games aren't athletic activity unless you count DDR, outside of that, nothing.

ChadSexington
12-13-2007, 12:06 AM
so is hopscotch, blinking, painting, carpentry, selling used cars, spitting crickets, tying your shoes, drinking coffee while driving to work, typing, etc..

all require skill, physical prowess of some nature, and can be competitive.

flash
12-13-2007, 12:41 AM
^^how in the world do you keep score doing those things?

Jackal
12-13-2007, 03:11 AM
Video games are not sports, they are games... nothing more. They may take skill, but by NO means do they require athletic skill.

Athlete = "–noun
a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill."

Drunk Rifle
12-13-2007, 03:36 AM
Video games are not sports, they are games... nothing more. They may take skill, but by NO means do they require athletic skill.

Athlete = "–noun
a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill."


Well taking that description I would say gaming is a sport then. It takes mental strength to handle all these e-thugs. The coordination needed to move a pointing device to get the person you want dead even though source tries its best to stop that. To hit someone alot in source is a gift, really it is. Play VIE for 10 hours and you got some serious stamina and mental strength.

So in the end, the dictionary is not the best place to look for the answer. Many other countries do have pro e-athletes that make more then most people do these days. In Korea alone, the top team averages over a million dollars plus a year for each of its players. I don't know about you guys but that seems like a living.

The real question is, does our society consider gaming as a sport? Not really because people see it still like a hobby. If we had million dollar earning players and had shows left right and center about gaming our society as a whole liked it, I don't think this debate would happen.

Finally, ask yourself this, why do people consider shooting a sport? Why is lawnmower racing considered a sport? Hell, why is curling or figure skating consider a sport? All of which only require some but not all of that definition above stated by Jackal.

jizzf0rjosh
12-13-2007, 04:00 AM
So in the end, the dictionary is not the best place to look for the answer. Many other countries do have pro e-athletes that make more then most people do these days. In Korea alone, the top team averages over a million dollars plus a year for each of its players. I don't know about you guys but that seems like a living.

Finally, ask yourself this, why do people consider shooting a sport? Why is lawnmower racing considered a sport? Hell, why is curling or figure skating consider a sport? All of which only require some but not all of that definition above stated by Jackal.

Where did you find that statistic? All I can find of top players in South Korea is around $200,000 a year (salary from sponsors and winnings combined). While this is not a sum to laugh at, your statistic seems to be pulled from air and inflated for effect.

He defined an athlete not a sport. Gaming is not a sport, its an e-sport and thats it. It doesn't take any strength, physical agility or stamina. Playing a game for 10 hours isn't stamina, its foolish, unhealthy and just shows your willpower to continue. Stamina is, as many people in the world view, the ability to endure a sustained physical stress.

Also, "All of which only require some but not all" is exactly what the OR is there for in the definition. Some is better than none (see: gaming)

Drunk Rifle
12-13-2007, 04:20 AM
Where did you find that statistic? All I can find of top players in South Korea is around $200,000 a year (salary from sponsors and winnings combined). While this is not a sum to laugh at, your statistic seems to be pulled from air and inflated for effect.

He defined an athlete not a sport. Gaming is not a sport, its an e-sport and thats it. It doesn't take any strength, physical agility or stamina. Playing a game for 10 hours isn't stamina, its foolish, unhealthy and just shows your willpower to continue. Stamina is, as many people in the world view, the ability to endure a sustained physical stress.

Also, "All of which only require some but not all" is exactly what the OR is there for in the definition. Some is better than none (see: gaming)

Well then I guess two years in south Korea means nothing because I never talked or taught a pro-gamer. Clearly the internet is right again! Thanks for pointing that out.

Your definition does have a flaw. It has been proven in numerous studies the amount of strain one can put their body through just by visual simulation can equal to some workouts. Again you are putting a very narrow view of what are sports and what those definition state as evidence. Just because you don't physically run or jump doesn't mean something isn't a sport. At the same time, just because you make money doesn't make it a sport.

As for your statement about 10 hours playing. You sir have learned that fact. Now if you could teach the other 9 million wow players this one you might get somewhere in proving that point.

Video Gaming as a sport for healthy exercise, it is not (unless you play the WII for 10 plus hours, thats a workout). Is poker or dog racing? Both put the word " Sport" into its name. That doesn't mean it should get sport status but yet it does. So lets continue this round and round debate what a sport is or isn't. Maybe the definition is truly right but again I don't know much as you seem to have pointed out with your wonderful internet search engine, the NET knows all and is never wrong.

Fishsticks
12-13-2007, 05:37 AM
If Nascar is a sport, then so is competitive gaming.

Better yet, if Golf is a sport, so is competitive gaming.

Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. ...
(http://www.google.ca/url?sa=X&start=9&oi=define&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport&usg=AFQjCNH50SjIMKq_KwVYHBBF1Y2SCltR7w)
^^Clickable^^
I see nothing about it having to be strenuous in any way.

Note how Golf is a sport.

pooter
12-13-2007, 02:13 PM
Not to interrupt the latter part of this thread or anything, but I'd like to give a big congrats to d6 for a well played match. These guys are a great team. Watch out other O teams! :eek:

Jackal
12-13-2007, 04:59 PM
FYI Drunk, I didn't give the definition of a sport, I gave it of an athlete as Josh noted (thank you josh). It could be argued that gaming is some form of sport, but is cannot be argued that it takes an athlete to compete in gaming or that individuals involved in online gaming are in any way, shape, or form to be considered athletes solely due to their participation in gaming.

If Nascar is a sport, then so is competitive gaming.
I've driven a Nascar, I did 10 laps at Lowes Motor Speedway, and it was one of the most strenuous and adrenalin pumping experiences of my life. I was physically exhausted and I'm in good shape. If you think Nascar is driving you're moms Taurus in a circle, you're sadly mistaken.

DanTesla1
12-13-2007, 06:45 PM
If you think Nascar is driving you're moms Taurus in a circle, you're sadly mistaken.

ROFL!